Saturday, February 25, 2012
Backup and restore
external USB hard drive. The external hard drive size is 250 GB. Can we do
FULL back up and differential back up on to the same drive? The server with
RAID configuration has SQL server 2000 on it for now. I will be loading
exchange server on to it in few days. The client is ok with loosing weeks
worth of data (ofcourse RAID is there) .
GHOST ... etc., what type of back up and restore is best in my situation.
The second question is, on the above server the active directory is not set
up. This machine is part of a domain server running on Linux. All users
are authenicated on linux server. Can I install Windows Exchange server
2003 on to it? Any complications or pre reqs to do so.
Thanks in Advance
BVRHi
"Uhway" <vbhadharla@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:uZ5us4FWDHA.1640@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> What's the best method to back up windows 2003 with 50 GB data on to an
> external USB hard drive. The external hard drive size is 250 GB. Can we
do
> FULL back up and differential back up on to the same drive? The server
with
Yes you can , I suggest you get some good backup software like arcserver.
While the Windows backup will work better recovery software is needed.
Yes you can do complete and differential backups on the same drive
> RAID configuration has SQL server 2000 on it for now.
You should backup all databases before the windows backup runs, transaction
logs should be backed up every hour
>I will be loading
> exchange server on to it in few days. The client is ok with loosing weeks
> worth of data (ofcourse RAID is there) .
Can I have this client they seem very easy to please. I hope the client is
OK in losing all perfromance out of the SQL box! SQL and exchanged are both
hogs and shouldn't rn on the same machine. Next you are gong to tell me you
run File/Print sharing and IIS as well!!
> GHOST ... etc., what type of back up and restore is best in my
situation.
Archserver has a very good restore option, from CD or disk
> The second question is, on the above server the active directory is not
set
> up. This machine is part of a domain server running on Linux. All users
> are authenicated on linux server. Can I install Windows Exchange server
> 2003 on to it? Any complications or pre reqs to do so.
I wouldn't have thought SQL Server runs of Linux are you using an emulation
package, if so you would already have perfromance problems :)
> Thanks in Advance
> BVR
Suggestions, Get a big tape drive, while slower than DISK more flexible and
cheaper (TAPES vs DISK) you also get more backup/recover options and at the
end of the day what's the use of backing up if you can't restore.
I hope this helps
regards
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Builder, the quickest way to document your database
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Friday, February 10, 2012
Backing up to Colorado external tape
use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though the
OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
Hello Neil,
Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan tape
devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following hotfix to see
if it helps:
825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of the
device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks & Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
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that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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| Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
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|
| we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am trying
to
| use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though
the
| OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
| Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
|
|||Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a tape is
mounted.
___________________
"Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
Hello Neil,
Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan tape
devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following hotfix to see
if it helps:
825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of the
device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks & Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
================================================== ===
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| Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
| Lines: 6
| Organization: NetLib
| X-Priority: 3
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| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
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| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 167.206.228.82
| Path:
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phx.gbl
| Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376364
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
|
| we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am trying
to
| use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though
the
| OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
| Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
|
|||Hi Neil
Why don't you use SQL to backup the database to disk and then have your
backup program grab the backup file and copy it to the tape? I know it's an
"extra" step, but it's maybe easier than getting SQL server to recognize the
tape.
Regards
Steen
Neil W. wrote:
> Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
> program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a
> tape is mounted.
> ___________________
> "Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> Hello Neil,
> Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan
> tape devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following
> hotfix to see if it helps:
> 825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
> If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of
> the device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
> Thanks & Regards,
> Peter Yang
> MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
> so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> ================================================== ===
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> --
>
cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEED02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFT NGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11[vbcol=seagreen]
> phx.gbl
|||Hello Neil,
It seems RSM does not work properly. Can you run Ntbackup to backup OS
files? Did you once use a different tape properly.
You can check if it is listed in RSM device by the following method:
1. Right click My Computer->Manage->Storage->Removable Storage
2. Check if the tape is listed properly.
If not, you may contact the manufacturer if it is fully compatible with
Win2000. If so, you may want to use the following steps to rebuild RSM
database to test
1. Stop the RSM Service.
2. Delete the RSM databases located at %SystemRoot%\System32\NtmsData.
3. Restart the RSM Service, this will recreate new, empty RSM Databases.
As I mentioned, it is usually a hardware/driver related issue. I agree with
Steen because his workaround might be much easier at present.
Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
================================================== ===
| From: "Steen Persson" <SPE@.REMOVEdatea.dk>
| References: <OfJOyg9BFHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
<DkH3gsACFHA.3152@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
<O##zhiGCFHA.1392@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
| Subject: Re: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:28:17 +0100
| Lines: 70
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| Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376456
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
|
| Hi Neil
| Why don't you use SQL to backup the database to disk and then have your
| backup program grab the backup file and copy it to the tape? I know it's
an
| "extra" step, but it's maybe easier than getting SQL server to recognize
the
| tape.
|
| Regards
| Steen
|
| Neil W. wrote:
| > Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
| > program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a
| > tape is mounted.
| >
| > ___________________
| >
| > "Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > Hello Neil,
| >
| > Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan
| > tape devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following
| > hotfix to see if it helps:
| >
| > 825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
| >
| > If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of
| > the device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
| >
| > Thanks & Regards,
| >
| > Peter Yang
| > MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
| > Microsoft Online Partner Support
| >
| > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
| > so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| >
| > ================================================== ===
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.
| >
| >
| > --
| >> Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| >> From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| >> Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| >> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
| >> Lines: 6
| >> Organization: NetLib
| >> X-Priority: 3
| >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| >> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
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| >> Message-ID: <OfJOyg9BFHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
| >> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 167.206.228.82
| >> Path:
| >
|
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| > phx.gbl
| >> Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376364
| >> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| >>
| >> we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am
| >> trying to use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive.
| >> Even though the OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or
| >> make SQL see the tape. Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
|
Backing up to Colorado external tape
use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though the
OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.Hello Neil,
Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan tape
devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following hotfix to see
if it helps:
825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of the
device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks & Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
========================================
=============
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
| Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
| Lines: 6
| Organization: NetLib
| X-Priority: 3
| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
| X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
| Message-ID: <OfJOyg9BFHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 167.206.228.82
| Path:
cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEED02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11
.phx.gbl
| Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376364
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
|
| we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am trying
to
| use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though
the
| OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
| Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
||||Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a tape is
mounted.
___________________
"Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
Hello Neil,
Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan tape
devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following hotfix to see
if it helps:
825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of the
device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks & Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
========================================
=============
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
| Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
| Lines: 6
| Organization: NetLib
| X-Priority: 3
| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
| X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
| Message-ID: <OfJOyg9BFHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 167.206.228.82
| Path:
cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEED02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11
phx.gbl
| Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376364
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
|
| we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am trying
to
| use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though
the
| OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
| Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
||||Hi Neil
Why don't you use SQL to backup the database to disk and then have your
backup program grab the backup file and copy it to the tape? I know it's an
"extra" step, but it's maybe easier than getting SQL server to recognize the
tape.
Regards
Steen
Neil W. wrote:
> Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
> program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a
> tape is mounted.
> ___________________
> "Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> Hello Neil,
> Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan
> tape devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following
> hotfix to see if it helps:
> 825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
> If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of
> the device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
> Thanks & Regards,
> Peter Yang
> MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
> so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> ========================================
=============
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> --
>
cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEED02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11[vbcol=seagreen]
> phx.gbl|||Hello Neil,
It seems RSM does not work properly. Can you run Ntbackup to backup OS
files? Did you once use a different tape properly.
You can check if it is listed in RSM device by the following method:
1. Right click My Computer->Manage->Storage->Removable Storage
2. Check if the tape is listed properly.
If not, you may contact the manufacturer if it is fully compatible with
Win2000. If so, you may want to use the following steps to rebuild RSM
database to test
1. Stop the RSM Service.
2. Delete the RSM databases located at %SystemRoot%\System32\NtmsData.
3. Restart the RSM Service, this will recreate new, empty RSM Databases.
As I mentioned, it is usually a hardware/driver related issue. I agree with
Steen because his workaround might be much easier at present.
Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
========================================
=============
| From: "Steen Persson" <SPE@.REMOVEdatea.dk>
| References: <OfJOyg9BFHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
<DkH3gsACFHA.3152@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
<O##zhiGCFHA.1392@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
| Subject: Re: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:28:17 +0100
| Lines: 70
| X-Priority: 3
| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
| X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
| Message-ID: <#yF4oKHCFHA.824@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.173.238.82
| Path:
cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEED02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11
.phx.gbl
| Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376456
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
|
| Hi Neil
| Why don't you use SQL to backup the database to disk and then have your
| backup program grab the backup file and copy it to the tape? I know it's
an
| "extra" step, but it's maybe easier than getting SQL server to recognize
the
| tape.
|
| Regards
| Steen
|
| Neil W. wrote:
| > Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
| > program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a
| > tape is mounted.
| >
| > ___________________
| >
| > "Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > Hello Neil,
| >
| > Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan
| > tape devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following
| > hotfix to see if it helps:
| >
| > 825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
| >
| > If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of
| > the device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
| >
| > Thanks & Regards,
| >
| > Peter Yang
| > MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
| > Microsoft Online Partner Support
| >
| > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
| > so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| >
| > ========================================
=============
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.
| >
| >
| > --
| >> Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| >> From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| >> Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| >> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
| >> Lines: 6
| >> Organization: NetLib
| >> X-Priority: 3
| >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| >> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
| >> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
| >> Message-ID: <OfJOyg9BFHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
| >> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 167.206.228.82
| >> Path:
| >
|
cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEED02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11
| > phx.gbl
| >> Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376364
| >> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| >>
| >> we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am
| >> trying to use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive.
| >> Even though the OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or
| >> make SQL see the tape. Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
|
Backing up to Colorado external tape
use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though the
OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.Hello Neil,
Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan tape
devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following hotfix to see
if it helps:
825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of the
device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks & Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
=====================================================This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
| Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
| Lines: 6
| Organization: NetLib
| X-Priority: 3
| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
| X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
| Message-ID: <OfJOyg9BFHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 167.206.228.82
| Path:
cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEED02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11
.phx.gbl
| Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376364
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
|
| we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am trying
to
| use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though
the
| OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
| Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
||||Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a tape is
mounted.
___________________
"Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
Hello Neil,
Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan tape
devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following hotfix to see
if it helps:
825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of the
device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks & Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
=====================================================This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
| Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
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|
| we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am trying
to
| use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive. Even though
the
| OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or make SQL see the tape.
| Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
||||Hi Neil
Why don't you use SQL to backup the database to disk and then have your
backup program grab the backup file and copy it to the tape? I know it's an
"extra" step, but it's maybe easier than getting SQL server to recognize the
tape.
Regards
Steen
Neil W. wrote:
> Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
> program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a
> tape is mounted.
> ___________________
> "Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> Hello Neil,
> Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan
> tape devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following
> hotfix to see if it helps:
> 825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
> If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of
> the device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
> Thanks & Regards,
> Peter Yang
> MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
> so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> =====================================================> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> --
>> Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
>> From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
>> Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
>> Lines: 6
>> Organization: NetLib
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>
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> phx.gbl
>> Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376364
>> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
>> we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am
>> trying to use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive.
>> Even though the OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or
>> make SQL see the tape. Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.|||Hello Neil,
It seems RSM does not work properly. Can you run Ntbackup to backup OS
files? Did you once use a different tape properly.
You can check if it is listed in RSM device by the following method:
1. Right click My Computer->Manage->Storage->Removable Storage
2. Check if the tape is listed properly.
If not, you may contact the manufacturer if it is fully compatible with
Win2000. If so, you may want to use the following steps to rebuild RSM
database to test
1. Stop the RSM Service.
2. Delete the RSM databases located at %SystemRoot%\System32\NtmsData.
3. Restart the RSM Service, this will recreate new, empty RSM Databases.
As I mentioned, it is usually a hardware/driver related issue. I agree with
Steen because his workaround might be much easier at present.
Regards,
Peter Yang
MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
=====================================================| From: "Steen Persson" <SPE@.REMOVEdatea.dk>
| References: <OfJOyg9BFHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
<DkH3gsACFHA.3152@.cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>
<O##zhiGCFHA.1392@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
| Subject: Re: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:28:17 +0100
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|
| Hi Neil
| Why don't you use SQL to backup the database to disk and then have your
| backup program grab the backup file and copy it to the tape? I know it's
an
| "extra" step, but it's maybe easier than getting SQL server to recognize
the
| tape.
|
| Regards
| Steen
|
| Neil W. wrote:
| > Thanks for the tip - but I am using Windows 2000. The included backup
| > program works fine - it is just that sql does not recognize that a
| > tape is mounted.
| >
| > ___________________
| >
| > "Peter Yang [MSFT]" <petery@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > Hello Neil,
| >
| > Based on my experience, there is some known issue on certain Travan
| > tape devices. You may first try to call PSS to get the following
| > hotfix to see if it helps:
| >
| > 825742 Cannot Back Up Data to a Travan Tape Device Successfully
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825742
| >
| > If the issue persists, it is advised that you contact manufacturer of
| > the device to get their support on this. Hope this is helpful.
| >
| > Thanks & Regards,
| >
| > Peter Yang
| > MCSE2000/2003, MCSA, MCDBA
| > Microsoft Online Partner Support
| >
| > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
| > so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| >
| > =====================================================| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.
| >
| >
| > --
| >> Reply-To: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| >> From: "Neil W." <neilw@.netlib.com>
| >> Subject: Backing up to Colorado external tape
| >> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:00:12 -0500
| >> Lines: 6
| >> Organization: NetLib
| >> X-Priority: 3
| >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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| > phx.gbl
| >> Xref: cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:376364
| >> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| >>
| >> we've backed up SQL to a "regular" tape drive before, but now I am
| >> trying to use a Colorado (Travan) external parallel port tape drive.
| >> Even though the OS seems to see a tape there, I cannot mount it or
| >> make SQL see the tape. Any ideas of what to do? Thanks.
|
|
|
backing up to an external drive
About three weeks ago, I configured a "Complete Backup" and "Transaction Log
Backup" maintenance plan in SQL Server 2000 to funnel the .BAK and .TRN files
to an external drive attached to the server through a USB port. These plans
run between 10 and 11 PM weeknights.
I tested these two plans before I left the client, that afternoon. The
backups were successful and I have reports that proved this.
Now, I reviewed the client's server remotely just today and found that only
the transaction logs backed up that night (10PM). The database backups did
not backup. And, that was the last time that the logs backed up.
I am going to review the SQL log report in a little while. But, why would
backups to an external drive (a mapped "Q" drive) work upon testing but
apparently stop working in production? Other than reviewing the report, is
there anything that I can do to get these backups to work?
Can the database maintenance plans simply not backup to an external drive?
Thanks!
childofthe1980s
"childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:B46F190C-E2CF-4ABD-80D3-7C8A2F6C3AC2@.microsoft.com...
> Hello:
> About three weeks ago, I configured a "Complete Backup" and "Transaction
> Log
> Backup" maintenance plan in SQL Server 2000 to funnel the .BAK and .TRN
> files
> to an external drive attached to the server through a USB port. These
> plans
> run between 10 and 11 PM weeknights.
> I tested these two plans before I left the client, that afternoon. The
> backups were successful and I have reports that proved this.
> Now, I reviewed the client's server remotely just today and found that
> only
> the transaction logs backed up that night (10PM). The database backups
> did
> not backup. And, that was the last time that the logs backed up.
> I am going to review the SQL log report in a little while. But, why would
> backups to an external drive (a mapped "Q" drive) work upon testing but
> apparently stop working in production? Other than reviewing the report,
> is
> there anything that I can do to get these backups to work?
I'm confused. Is this an external drive or a mapped drive?
In any case, if it's external, make sure the drive letter hasn't been
changed.
If it's mapped, you're far better off using UNCs.
> Can the database maintenance plans simply not backup to an external drive?
They can be. Bee there, done that.
> Thanks!
> childofthe1980s
Greg Moore
SQL Server DBA Consulting
sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com
backing up to an external drive
About three weeks ago, I configured a "Complete Backup" and "Transaction Log
Backup" maintenance plan in SQL Server 2000 to funnel the .BAK and .TRN file
s
to an external drive attached to the server through a USB port. These plans
run between 10 and 11 PM weeknights.
I tested these two plans before I left the client, that afternoon. The
backups were successful and I have reports that proved this.
Now, I reviewed the client's server remotely just today and found that only
the transaction logs backed up that night (10PM). The database backups did
not backup. And, that was the last time that the logs backed up.
I am going to review the SQL log report in a little while. But, why would
backups to an external drive (a mapped "Q" drive) work upon testing but
apparently stop working in production? Other than reviewing the report, is
there anything that I can do to get these backups to work?
Can the database maintenance plans simply not backup to an external drive?
Thanks!
childofthe1980s"childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:B46F190C-E2CF-4ABD-80D3-7C8A2F6C3AC2@.microsoft.com...
> Hello:
> About three weeks ago, I configured a "Complete Backup" and "Transaction
> Log
> Backup" maintenance plan in SQL Server 2000 to funnel the .BAK and .TRN
> files
> to an external drive attached to the server through a USB port. These
> plans
> run between 10 and 11 PM weeknights.
> I tested these two plans before I left the client, that afternoon. The
> backups were successful and I have reports that proved this.
> Now, I reviewed the client's server remotely just today and found that
> only
> the transaction logs backed up that night (10PM). The database backups
> did
> not backup. And, that was the last time that the logs backed up.
> I am going to review the SQL log report in a little while. But, why would
> backups to an external drive (a mapped "Q" drive) work upon testing but
> apparently stop working in production? Other than reviewing the report,
> is
> there anything that I can do to get these backups to work?
I'm confused. Is this an external drive or a mapped drive?
In any case, if it's external, make sure the drive letter hasn't been
changed.
If it's mapped, you're far better off using UNCs.
> Can the database maintenance plans simply not backup to an external drive?
They can be. Bee there, done that.
> Thanks!
> childofthe1980s
Greg Moore
SQL Server DBA Consulting
sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com
backing up to an external drive
About three weeks ago, I configured a "Complete Backup" and "Transaction Log
Backup" maintenance plan in SQL Server 2000 to funnel the .BAK and .TRN files
to an external drive attached to the server through a USB port. These plans
run between 10 and 11 PM weeknights.
I tested these two plans before I left the client, that afternoon. The
backups were successful and I have reports that proved this.
Now, I reviewed the client's server remotely just today and found that only
the transaction logs backed up that night (10PM). The database backups did
not backup. And, that was the last time that the logs backed up.
I am going to review the SQL log report in a little while. But, why would
backups to an external drive (a mapped "Q" drive) work upon testing but
apparently stop working in production? Other than reviewing the report, is
there anything that I can do to get these backups to work?
Can the database maintenance plans simply not backup to an external drive?
Thanks!
childofthe1980s"childofthe1980s" <childofthe1980s@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:B46F190C-E2CF-4ABD-80D3-7C8A2F6C3AC2@.microsoft.com...
> Hello:
> About three weeks ago, I configured a "Complete Backup" and "Transaction
> Log
> Backup" maintenance plan in SQL Server 2000 to funnel the .BAK and .TRN
> files
> to an external drive attached to the server through a USB port. These
> plans
> run between 10 and 11 PM weeknights.
> I tested these two plans before I left the client, that afternoon. The
> backups were successful and I have reports that proved this.
> Now, I reviewed the client's server remotely just today and found that
> only
> the transaction logs backed up that night (10PM). The database backups
> did
> not backup. And, that was the last time that the logs backed up.
> I am going to review the SQL log report in a little while. But, why would
> backups to an external drive (a mapped "Q" drive) work upon testing but
> apparently stop working in production? Other than reviewing the report,
> is
> there anything that I can do to get these backups to work?
I'm confused. Is this an external drive or a mapped drive?
In any case, if it's external, make sure the drive letter hasn't been
changed.
If it's mapped, you're far better off using UNCs.
> Can the database maintenance plans simply not backup to an external drive?
They can be. Bee there, done that.
> Thanks!
> childofthe1980s
Greg Moore
SQL Server DBA Consulting
sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com
Backing up to a Tape Drive
I am setting up a new SQL Server that has an external HP 920 SAS Ultrium tape drive attached to it via a p400 sas card.
I am running 2003 R2 x64 with 2005 SQL Server x64, and I am trying to set up my DB backup plan but for some reason I can't get SQL to recognize my tape drive, alhough it is listed in device manager.
Anyone have any thoughts? I'm kind of stumped.
Thanks in advance,
Mark.
What do you mean SQL Server doesn't recognise it?
It's not listed in the dropdown when you try to create a new backup device in SQL Server Management Studio.|||Sorry ... Yes when trying to add it as a new backup device in Management Studio.
Also I have SP2 installed.
|||Not sure - maybe there's a problem with the compatibility of the drive. I don't know if there might be a problem if the drive wasn't attached and switched on when SQL Server started up.
It is worth trying to run the SQL
EXEC sp_addumpdevice 'tape', 'DumpToTape', '\\.\tape0'
Assuming that it is the first tape device in the machine.
Sorry you are running off the limit of my knowledge.
|||I did that before I started the thread, but i must have done it incorrectly because when i ran it just now it created the device under backup devices and I am now all set.
Thanks for the help.
|||Sorry , I have already added to DumpDevice. but The Error is represent.
would u tell me what to do ? it is SQL Server 2005 X64 Bug ?
thanks
Backing up to a Tape Drive
I am setting up a new SQL Server that has an external HP 920 SAS Ultrium tape drive attached to it via a p400 sas card.
I am running 2003 R2 x64 with 2005 SQL Server x64, and I am trying to set up my DB backup plan but for some reason I can't get SQL to recognize my tape drive, alhough it is listed in device manager.
Anyone have any thoughts? I'm kind of stumped.
Thanks in advance,
Mark.
What do you mean SQL Server doesn't recognise it?
It's not listed in the dropdown when you try to create a new backup device in SQL Server Management Studio.|||
Sorry ... Yes when trying to add it as a new backup device in Management Studio.
Also I have SP2 installed.
|||Not sure - maybe there's a problem with the compatibility of the drive. I don't know if there might be a problem if the drive wasn't attached and switched on when SQL Server started up.
It is worth trying to run the SQL
EXEC sp_addumpdevice 'tape', 'DumpToTape', '\\.\tape0'
Assuming that it is the first tape device in the machine.
Sorry you are running off the limit of my knowledge.
|||I did that before I started the thread, but i must have done it incorrectly because when i ran it just now it created the device under backup devices and I am now all set.
Thanks for the help.
|||Sorry , I have already added to DumpDevice. but The Error is represent.
would u tell me what to do ? it is SQL Server 2005 X64 Bug ?
thanks